Here's my latest line of thought-- which may or may not actually be valid-- but I suffer from many illusions-- that seem perfectly real to me-- as many cryos know. And I'm being sarcastic by the way-- because in TRUTH-- my idiot-logical positions DO hold water-- and weight-- despite having leaks.
Ok-- Here it is.
CPlatt's discovery of the original by law is earth shattering. Dave Pizer's taking it up as a "weaponized" configuration of his sudden (?) decision to make Alcor democracy a cause celebre has just occurred-- with his advice that Alcor have an attourney on hand at the next board meeting. This is the equivalent of Dave reading the Miranda rights to the existing board of directors at Alcor.
Ravin Jain, M.D.
Saul Kent
Ralph Merkle, Ph.D.
Carlos Mondragon
Michael Riskin, Ph.D., CPA, Chairman
Michael Seidl, Ph.D., JD
Stephen Van Sickle
Brian Wowk, Ph.D.
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Wowk hangs out at the Conaway Alcor United forum-- mainly as a gatekeeper-- certainly not as an initiator of discussions. Van Sickle hangs there too. Riskin stopped posting anywhere a long time ago-- is the longest sitting board member-- and is Chairman of the Board. Carlos is an ex-president-- very astute guy-- quite amazing to watch him in action-- last time I saw him perform in board meetings was a few years ago during the Stump crisis-- Merkle-- indteresting guy because he's the guy who publicly asked-- at an Alcor conference-- who wants democracy?-- why would he ask that if he wasn't leaning in favor of it?-- Kent-- the Howard Hughes of cryonics-- dead silence there. And Ravin-- never met the guy.
Alcor was instituted with a Director Electorate-- Fred and Linda instituted Alcor-- Fred says there were not enough people in Alcor to make Director Electorate feasble-- leading to the idea that AT THE POINT WHERE IT DID BECOME FEASIBLE-- it SHOULD have been made to happen. INSTEAD-- we were led to believe that Alcor was INSITUTED as a self-electing board.
It's as if Fred and Linda-- who were kicked out of Alcor-- astonishingly to me-- have "come back to haunt" the current board. They live on-- IN THAT BYLAW-- IN the boardroom. Their control comes BACK TO LIVE!!! Like a monster-- to the current board.
It's kind of ironic, and funny.
It's like a trap door in the back of a computer program.
NOBODY including DAVE-- and especially Bridge and FD-- see it like I do-- they all SEE the original bylaw-- but they all call for a NEW view... as though this day-- in 2008-- needs to start fresh. This is UN-- true... or NON-true-- or..... "false" reasoning... "fraudulent" reasoning??? ... a LIE-- dare we say? It's tantamount to historiographial IGNORANCE-- a lack of depth of consiousness....
MY NEW LINE OF REASONING-- is that there has been a COVER UP-- a MAJOR default-- in the presidential line of leadership at ALCOR!!-- which snares everyone. The size of the conspiracy is so monstrous as to appear absolutely rediculous-- and yet... there it IS-- in PLAIN VIEW!!!!
Fred said Alcor was too small to make Director Electorate bylaw practical-- which LEADS to the idea that ONCE ALCOR REACHED A CRITICAL SIZE-- that that bylaw shoulld have been PRACTICAL at some point-- and when it WAS PRACTICAL-- it should have been GRANDFATHERED in-- or ACTIVATED-- or kicked into gear.
And here we are, assembled in time and space-- where the ORIGINAL intent of Alcor's operation-- is practical and HAS been practical for some years-- and it's TIME to KICK that provision into gear... we're only instituting what can NOW-- occur.
The 1980's situation where Mike refers to the biggest mistake he ever made-- which was deleting that bylaw-- or inactivating it-- was-- as Dave points out-- illegal-- that at that time-- that bylaw BECAME practical-- so it's incumbent upon us now to look at who the board members were at that time--
Alcor's site doesn't have a history of board members. It should. I can look it up in an old Alcor newsletter-- the small format ones-- Mike likely has a complete set in his archive.
Fred himself has said the ONLY REASON the DE was not activated fully was practicality implying that once it WAS practical-- that it SHOULD be instituted--
In the early 80's, it might have become practical on some level-- and Mike appears to have suppressed it along with the existing board at the time-- over-turning the original intended design.
My theory is that all we need to do is return to the original design. To do THAT, we need to nail down the PRECISE history-- exactly WHO was at the board meeting where the original bylaw was dumped? History is very interesting-- because with a properly functioning cognitive forebrain-- a cerebral cortex where we might grow new neurons still-- you can join together parts of history and make them simultanous in your minds eye. History becomes very close-up that way-- 20 years ago in 1988-- can appear as close as 5 minutes ago. I love to do that.... it's like TIME TRAVEL....
The people on Cold Filter who are resisting time travel-- are going against our own philosophy as cryonicists. Dredging up the past-- is like dredging a canal. You get this crap coming out-- like big gluey masses of algae, hidden under dark water. It's time to do some scuba diving...
Welcome to the Blogger.com site for Alcor Democracy. [More] just below is the latest post-- below that, several of the latest posts by subject line-- and then below that-- the alphabetical index. Finally at the bottom, some useful introductory remarks.
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- ALCOR UNITED-- 00-- thread on Alcor democracy
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 03-- Alcor mysteries vs. bylaw
- ED SWANK-- ACS-- 00-- suggestions
- ASCHWIN DEWOLF-- 00-- FD refers to in CF
- 501c3 STATUS-- 01-- Merkle invokes potential 501c3...
- EMAIL GROUP-- 00-- I'll form my own email group here.
- KEITH HENSON-- 04-- More history confusing.
- PETITION-- 00-- ReformAlcor guest book hidden
- COLD FILTER-- 02-- Following Monday shows slowdown...
- CONTINUUM-- 00-- My blog tracking before this spec...
- PRIVATE EMAIL GROUP-- 01-- I asked to be deleted f...
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 02-- Back to the real issue pos...
- CRYONET-- Cryonics discussions on Alcor bylaws
- NEW STRATEGY-- 01-- I'll be containing my views
- STEVE BRIDGE-- 00-- Intense research on the matter...
- KEITH HENSON-- 03-- KH defends self-electing proce...
- ALCOR-- volunteer opportunities-- Chapman should a...
- SILENCE-- 03-- CryoNet under-utilized
- SILENCE-- 02-- Readers don't post
- SILENCE-- 01-- Contined silence make internet obso...
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 05-- Alcor's search engine s...
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 03-- Legalities of changing Alc...
- FD-- 01-- Fails to contextualize properly
- LEADERSHIP-- 01-- Dave denies leadership
- KEITH HENSON-- 02-- Incidents have nothing to do w...
- DISAPPEARING CRYONICISTS-- 01-- Cold Filter virtua...
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 01-- blog
- EARLIER NOTES-- Alcor democracy on Philossifur's C...
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 02-- Members may already have r...
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 05-- Mike Darwin claimed responsibilty
- GEORGE-- 00-- takes it too far--
- COLD FILTER-- FD-- 00-- once again, takes the wron...
- ALCOR-- board meetings-- 01-- March meeting promis...
- FRED-- 01-- Waiting to hear more from Fred on this.
- NARRATIVE-- 10-- Silence
- GATEKEEPERS-- Steve Bridge-- 01-- My analysis of h...
- COLD FILTER-- Alcor board of directors discussion-...
- COLD FILTER-- Original Alcor bylaws-- thread by CP...
- COLD FILTER--Let's all work together-- thread by Dave
- COLD FILTER-- Kidnapped-- thread by Dave
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 01-- Dave lists more than just ...
- KEITH HENSON-- 01-- Henson didn't know about origi...
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- Dave Pizer's forum about democr...
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 04-- Alcor articles of incorporation
- GATEKEEPERS-- 02-- Wowk-VanSickle do NOT respond t...
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 04-- New line of reasoning b...
- GATEKEEPERS-- 01-- Keith Henson's view tended to a...
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 03-- CPlatt's original post to CF o...
- COLD FILTER-- 01-- No update Monday.
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 02-- conflicting narrative from FCh...
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 03-- google search
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 01-- change may have been illegal
- ASTONISHING HYPOTHESIS-- 00-- Pizer points to new ...
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 00-- FD points out it was not a fai...
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 02-- FD's approximation method
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 01-- history of this option
- VOTE OF CONFIDENCE-- 01-- Cold filter thread exami...
- WEBSITE-- ReformAlcor.org-- 01-- New site announced.
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Alphabetical index of keywords -- sub-keywords
- 00-- OVERVIEW-- 00-- Pizer and CPlatt have gone silent (1)
- 01-- WELCOME-- Alcor Democracy Movement (1)
- 501c3 STATUS-- 01-- Merkle invokes potential 501c3 problem (1)
- ALCOR UNITED-- 00-- thread on Alcor democracy (1)
- ALCOR-- article of incorpoation-- director electroate (1)
- ALCOR-- board meetings-- 01-- March meeting promises tension (1)
- ALCOR-- volunteer opportunities-- Chapman should add Bylaw Research (1)
- ASCHWIN DEWOLF-- 00-- FD refers to in CF (1)
- ASTONISHING HYPOTHESIS-- 00-- Pizer points to new ground (1)
- BYLAW APPROVAL?-- 01-- What's this??? Take a look (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 00-- FD points out it was not a fair change (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 01-- change may have been illegal (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 02-- conflicting narrative from FChamberlain and other info (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 03-- CPlatt's original post to CF on discovery of original bylaw (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 04-- Alcor articles of incorporation (1)
- BYLAW CHANGE-- 05-- Mike Darwin claimed responsibilty (1)
- case report (1)
- COLD FILTER-- 01-- No update Monday. (1)
- COLD FILTER-- 02-- Following Monday shows slowdown in posting. (1)
- COLD FILTER-- 03-- Slowdown continues. (1)
- COLD FILTER-- Alcor board of directors discussion-- thread by Steve Bridge (1)
- COLD FILTER-- FD-- 00-- once again (1)
- COLD FILTER-- Kidnapped-- thread by Dave (1)
- COLD FILTER-- Let's all work together-- thread by Dave (1)
- COLD FILTER-- Original Alcor bylaws-- thread by CPlatt (1)
- CONTINUUM-- 00-- My blog tracking before this specialiized blog (1)
- CRYONET-- Cryonics discussions on Alcor bylaws (1)
- CRYONET-- David Pizer messages (1)
- CRYONICS-- Alcor-- democracy-- dictatorship model (1)
- D-- 04-- reports board threw a bone to Pizer-- insufficient (1)
- DAVE PIZER-- 00-- Public disappearance. (1)
- DAVE PIZER-- 01-- Reappears with open ultimatum etter to board (1)
- DEBATE-- invitation-- Alcor board (1)
- democracy (1)
- DICTATORSHIP MODEL-- cream of crop argument (1)
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 01-- history of this option (1)
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 02-- FD's approximation method (1)
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 03-- google search (1)
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 04-- New line of reasoning by ME (1)
- DIRECTOR ELECTORATE-- 05-- Alcor's search engine shows no hits (1)
- DIRECTORS-- Let's clear the air (1)
- DISAPPEARING CRYONICISTS-- 01-- Cold Filter virtually aband (1)
- EARLIER NOTES-- Alcor democracy on Philossifur's Continuum (1)
- ED SWANK-- ACS-- 00-- suggestions (1)
- EMAIL GROUP-- 00-- I'll form my own email group here. (1)
- FD-- 01-- Fails to contextualize properly (1)
- FD-- 02-- Posts observation of silence to CryoNet (1)
- FD-- 03-- Good concluding commentary misses bylaw and polls (1)
- FRED-- 01-- Waiting to hear more from Fred on this. (1)
- GATEKEEPERS-- 01-- Keith Henson's view tended to avoid the original bylaw (1)
- GATEKEEPERS-- 02-- Wowk-VanSickle do NOT respond to Pizer on AU (1)
- GATEKEEPERS-- 05-- Alan Sinclair (1)
- GATEKEEPERS-- Joseph P. Morgan (1)
- GATEKEEPERS-- Steve Bridge-- 01-- My analysis of his comments (1)
- GEORGE-- 00-- takes it too far-- (1)
- KEITH HENSON-- 01-- Henson didn't know about original bylaw (1)
- KEITH HENSON-- 02-- Incidents have nothing to do with original bylaw (1)
- KEITH HENSON-- 03-- KH defends self-electing process based on DoraKent crisis (1)
- KEITH HENSON-- 04-- More history confusing. (1)
- LEADERSHIP-- 01-- Dave denies leadership (1)
- MAXIM-- 01-- Self Electing Boards-- (1)
- MERKLE-- vs. Pizer (1)
- NARRATIVE-- 10-- Silence (1)
- NEW STRATEGY-- 01-- I'll be containing my views (1)
- PETITION-- 00-- ReformAlcor guest book hidden (1)
- POLL-- Alcor-- Alcor bylawy discovery reaction (1)
- POLL-- Alcor-- Do you regard DPizer as leader of Alcor democracy push? (1)
- POLL-- Alcor-- Is Alcor board doing a good job? (1)
- POLL-- Alcor-- Should Alcor change their board election method to include membership votes? (1)
- POLL-- Shannon-- Alcor members vs. Alcor board should vote for board (1)
- POLL-- triper-- term limits (1)
- POLL-- Tripper-- Do you agree with Alcor's goals (1)
- PRIVATE EMAIL GROUP-- 01-- I asked to be deleted from the group (1)
- QUESTIONS by DAVE-- answers by Philossifur (1)
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 01-- Dave lists more than just the democracy debate (1)
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 02-- Members may already have right to vote (1)
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- 03-- Legalities of changing Alcor's board (1)
- REFORM ALCOR.org-- Dave Pizer's forum about democracy at Alcor (1)
- Saul Kent-- buying Alcor? (1)
- SILENCE-- 01-- Contined silence make internet obsolete (1)
- SILENCE-- 02-- Readers don't post (1)
- SILENCE-- 03-- CryoNet under-utilized (1)
- STEVE BRIDGE-- 00-- Intense research on the matter of self-electing boards (1)
- SURVEY-- Shannon Vyff's Poll-- 3 to 1 favor democracy (1)
- takes the wrong route (1)
- TANYA-- 00-- TANYA-- 00-- elect advisors (1)
- TANYA-- vs. Dave's responses (1)
- test (1)
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 01-- blog (1)
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 02-- Back to the real issue post on CF (1)
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY-- 03-- Alcor mysteries vs. bylaw (1)
- TRIPPER MCCARTHY--04-- alternate system ignores bylaw (1)
- VOTE OF CONFIDENCE-- 01-- Cold filter thread examines "how to" (1)
- WEBSITE-- ReformAlcor.org-- 01-- New site announced. (1)
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